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Findmypast has new look

Discussion in 'Latest news' started by peter, Dec 17, 2019.

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What do you think of the new Findmypast look

  1. Great improvement

  2. Interesting

  3. Makes a change

  4. Makes no difference to me

  5. Don't like it

  6. Not sure yet

Results are only viewable after voting.
  1. Bob Spiers

    Bob Spiers LostCousins Star

    Yes I have your read your recommendations not to fill in birthplaces at FMP and I'm afraid have ignored same because it is second nature to enter a birthplace for me and my second nature wins every time. Besides I rarely enter more than a 'County' and Ancestry has no problems in accepting those, and I believe it even paves the way into getting a sensible result. (That Ancestry is quite capable of providing silly results for other reasons is not disputed, but another matter entirely).

    I am afraid whilst the 'history' of FMP is useful knowledge, it is little consolation for having to think and rethink what should and should not be entered. I speak as I find, and I'm afraid I find FMP lacking in this particular aspect, even though, as I've said before and will again, it has many virtues; this just isn't one of them. Sorry.
     
  2. Bob Spiers

    Bob Spiers LostCousins Star

    I note what you say Helen but have to go offline now but have yet to be convinced it works like that.
     
  3. peter

    peter Administrator Staff Member

    Bob, what you are saying is that you expect Findmypast to change in order to be more like Ancestry. I might equally bemoan the fact that Ancestry isn't more like Findmypast - because there are plenty of things I can do at Findmypast that won't work, or won't work nearly as well, at Ancestry.

    Unfortunately we both have to accept the fact that sometimes it's easier to change what we do than to try to change the rest of the world. And a further reminder that when something doesn't work you can help others (and maybe yourself too) by investigating why this is.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  4. At home in NZ

    At home in NZ LostCousins Member

    Putting aside all arguments about the virtues of FMP v Ancestry has anybody noticed that only 19 people have bothered to vote?
    A pretty poor outcome when, as Peter says, about 60,000 newsletters are sent out.
     
  5. peter

    peter Administrator Staff Member

    It is a poor turnout, but bear in mind that only the 1800 or so members of the forum are eligible to vote - and not all of them will be Findmypast subscribers.
     
  6. At home in NZ

    At home in NZ LostCousins Member

    I'm not a current subscriber but I still had a look at it.
     
  7. Tim

    Tim Moderator Staff Member

    You don't have to reload anything, and I use the 50% off every year.
     
  8. peter

    peter Administrator Staff Member

    But you're one of a handful of regular forum users - someone who rarely uses the forum (fewer than 10% of registered users have visited at all in the last month) and isn't a current subscriber to Findmypast would be extremely unlikely to make the effort.
     
  9. Pauline

    Pauline LostCousins Star

    The new style menu bar is now appearing on all pages, including those that are otherwise in the old style. This is making all my pages load at 75% instead of just the new style pages, as previously. However, that isn't really a problem, just not what I'd prefer.

    What has been causing a few issues is that on the old style pages the new menu bar pops in last after the rest of the page has loaded and is apparently ready to use. So if I select something at the top of the main page I find I've clicked something in the menu bar instead - usually the DNA link - and end up there instead.

    At least I haven't ended up almost buying a DNA kit as has sometimes happened at Ancestry, when a DNA offer banner pops in unexpectedly at the last minute!
     
  10. Bob Spiers

    Bob Spiers LostCousins Star

    I really have no issue with you on FMP as a research entity, and even agree it excels in areas where Ancestry flounders. But, as I have said above, if conducting a Search from an Ancestors page (looking for say a Census or other media) then yes, my first choice would be Ancestry. More often than not it finds what I seek and requires minimum input from me as it has everything it needs from information already stored. If the results throw up ‘chaff’ then it is up to me to pick out the ‘wheat’

    But for a ‘blind’ search -someone not in my Tree - then FMP would be the natural choice because it deals with such far better (birthplace input aside for the moment). If that fails then of course Ancestry must be tried before turning to Family Search, Free BMD or GRO. So, in short, it is horses for courses; that is what experience teaches.

    What I seek from conducting searches is results in single figures, or low double. Not in multiple hundreds and heaven forbid, thousands. It seems both fair and logical to aid such results by maximising input, not minimising. Yet that is what you advocate, and FMP seems to relish. It goes against the natural order a bit like giving a description of a car to a policeman as a car or van of darkish colour, rather than a Blue Ford Fiesta.


    My advice (as already given) is to use Ancestry first and foremost for getting additional information on an Ancestor (pick and choose from the results with caution). Or if conducting a blind search, (assuming you have a subscription) use FMP. Enter names, preferably a first and a surname (use name variants sparingly). Input date(s) (stay with +/-2 if possible). I like to enter a county birthplace (in the hope of minimising results) but if this does not work, and as Peter advises, leave it out and just hope and pray you are seeking an Emmanuel Goosetrotter and not a John or Mary Smith. If using Family Search or Free BMD than a county birthplace improves results not hinders.
     
  11. Bob Spiers

    Bob Spiers LostCousins Star

    I have lost count of the number of times that happens to me (inadvertently being taken to the menu bar). It causes me instant fury finding myself at the DNA link. I even have to caution myself to lower the mouse cursor to prevent this...until I forget of course and get taken to goodness knows where.
     
  12. Bob Spiers

    Bob Spiers LostCousins Star

    I now accept what you (and Helen) say (particularly about not needing to upload anew ), and understand the cost saving motivation. What I cannot understand is that Ancestry allow such. I know of at least one (non genealogical) subscription offering 'special discounted prices to new subscribers' where they have an embargo on anyone applying if they have been a previous subscriber within the last 6 months. For Ancestry not to have similar is an extraordinary loophole in their T&C.

    However, that is their problem and presumably you can just cancel one day and (allowing expiry of contract) renew the next. How long will it be before they catch on I wonder, but for now it seems an offer too good to miss. I will have to consider same myself when my subscription renewal is due..sometime in May/June I think.
     
  13. Tim

    Tim Moderator Staff Member

    Ping me if you need the link.
     
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