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Ancestry DNA Matches

Discussion in 'DNA Questions and Answers' started by Tim, Sep 27, 2020.

  1. Tim

    Tim Moderator Staff Member

    Inspired by what other members have been saying about how many matches they have, I thought I would share mine and ask what sort of figures you have. This is just a bit of fun and all the info is available from the Ancestry DNA pages.

    I have 6 closer than 4th cousin.

    I have 169 4th Cousins or closer.

    I have 18,651 Distant Matches.

    This gives me a total of 18,820 matches.

    I have managed to identify 49 of these DNA Matches and add them to my tree.

    What sort of success have you been having?
     
  2. PhilGee

    PhilGee LostCousins Member

    Since I have been updating my information:

    <4C 3
    <=4C 262
    Dist 15,535
    Total 15,797

    Identified with "connected to" symbol (in tree) 34
    Identified by "Common Ancestors"*/"Cousin+Removed" group (not yet in tree) 36

    * ignoring erroneous "Common Ancestors"
     
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  3. jorghes

    jorghes LostCousins Superstar

    Given that I don't generally do much with my own results, here are those from my three main DNA sets - those of my father, paternal grandmother and mother:
    *My father and grandmother have Jewish ancestry and large amounts of emigration to the US, which may account for the larger numbers; my mother's ancestry is all Welsh/English with some later emigration. [For the closer than 4th cousins portion I did remove all members of the immediate family including myself and my siblings, and my father's sister - if you want to include them, then it's +5 for my father and grandmother's results and +3 for my mother's]

    Test 1:
    My father has 12 closer than 4th cousin (2 listed as "2nd cousin" and 10 as "3rd cousin");
    He has 304 4th cousins or closer;
    He has 15,075 distant matches,
    Giving him a total of 15,397; of which I have identified 57. [specific identification as opposed to general family group]

    Test 2:
    My paternal grandmother has 21 closer than 4th cousin (3 2nd cousins and 18 3rd);
    She has 939 4th cousins or closer;
    She has 39,391 distant matches,
    Giving her a total of 40,356; of which I have identified 90 (some overlap to be expected with Test 1)

    Test 3:
    My mother has 12 closer than 4th cousins (4 2nd cousins + 8 3rd cousins);
    She has 383 4th cousins or closer;
    She has 17,643 distant matches;
    Giving her a total of 18,041; of which I have identified 26.
     
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  4. Bryman

    Bryman LostCousins Megastar

    Rather less than above so I will add a little extra information to make up.

    <4C = 6
    4C = 207
    Dist = 13,659
    Total = 13,872

    Most Recent Common Ancestors for close matches = 26
    MRCAs for dist matches = 49
    MRCAs false = 4 (tree error by match?)
    Unique MRCAs = 24 (range of Ahnentafel Nos = 12/13 to 204/205)

    I also try to identify which of my 8 G GPs are descended from the MRCA for each match . . .
    1 = 12 cases so far
    2 = 9
    3 = 5
    4 = 22
    5 = 12
    6 = 2
    7 = 15
    8 = 7
    Total = 84 MRCAs confirmed so far. More than predicted by Ancestry because some matches without trees but known by me.
     
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  5. Pauline

    Pauline LostCousins Superstar

    I manage two tests, mine and my sister's and I have:

    12, 857 matches in total
    & 368 4th cousins or closer, which include
    9 2nd & 3rd cousins (+ my sister)
    I have identified 137 of those matches - 94 on my mother's side & 43 on my father's

    The figures are similar for my sister, though she has around 1500 more matches in total than me, & about 20 fewer 4th cousins & closer.
     
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  6. jorghes

    jorghes LostCousins Superstar

    My paternal grandmother's results are an anomaly even within all the sets that I manage! I'm almost scared every time I look at her totals.
     
  7. Helen7

    Helen7 LostCousins Superstar

    I manage two tests, mine and my husband's and our numbers are as follows:

    Me:
    <4C = 3
    4C = 269
    Distant = 18,339
    Total = 18,611
    'Common Ancestors' for close matches = 17 (all checked and appear correct)
    'Common Ancestors' for distant matches = 48 (35 verified, 8 possible, 5 false)
    I have identified 88 of the matches (52 of those with Common Ancestors indicated by Ancestry, plus 31 with no or minimal trees via personal contact/research):
    34 on paternal GF's side
    6 on paternal GM's side
    13 on maternal GF's side
    35 on maternal GM's side

    My husband:
    <4C = 5
    4C = 230
    Distant = 14,665
    Total = 14,900
    'Common Ancestors' for close matches = 21 (all checked and appear correct)
    'Common Ancestors' for distant matches = 38 (24 verified, 14 possible)
    I have identified 59 of the matches (45 of those with Common Ancestors indicated by Ancestry, plus 14 with no or minimal trees via personal contact/research):
    12 on paternal GF's side
    22 on paternal GM's side
    14 on maternal GF's side
    11 on maternal GM's side

    In addition to those identified, I have been able to place others in general family groups through shared matches but have been unable to identify their exact relationship to me/my husband.
     
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  8. Pauline

    Pauline LostCousins Superstar

    I don't have as matches in total as you have, Helen, but I have a lot more more Common Ancestor ones - around 45 for close matches and 100 for distant ones.

    Of course, a few of them are definitely spurious, and there are others which link to 'Potential Ancestors' in my ThruLines, who I've so far been unable to confirm really are my ancestors.

    Although I always check out Common Ancestor matches before treating them as definite, they are a big help. When working through other people's trees, shared matches may give you a clue as to where you might be heading, but with common ancestor hints you know in which line to start looking. Otherwise the possibilities for a connection can be endless!
     
  9. Andrew Lloyd

    Andrew Lloyd LostCousins Star

    Me:
    <4C: 6 (inc siblings)
    4C: 233
    Distant: 17,072
    Comm Anc: 45 (36 verified)
    Tot Verified: 84 (inc sibling matches)

    Brother:
    <4C: 4 (inc siblings)
    4C: 320
    Distant: 21,102
    Comm Anc: 52 (35 verified)
    Tot Verified: (see above)

    Sister:
    <4C: 2 (siblings)
    4C: 297
    Distant: 22,403
    Comm Anc: 43 (33 verified)
    Tot Verified: (see above)

    Spouse:
    <4C: 2
    4C: 404
    Distant: 17,956
    Comm Anc: 115 (64 verified)
    Tot Verified: 152
     
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  10. Susan48

    Susan48 LostCousins Superstar

    I have a total of 14, 147 matches
    4 are closer than 4th cousin
    257 are 4th-6th cousin
    13, 886 are distant matches

    I have 26 matches with common ancestors
    1 x 1st cousin
    1 x 2nd cousin
    11 x 4th-6th cousin
    13 x distant matches
    2 need checking, 2 are definitely wrong
     
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  11. John Dancy

    John Dancy LostCousins Star

    I have been thinking about the above, and have come up with another, hopefully useful ? game or excercise. See PLUNK
     
  12. John Dancy

    John Dancy LostCousins Star

    When I have loaded it later today !!!
     
  13. Colin

    Colin New Member

    So far with my matches I've contacted 5 and only had one reply.
    Is there anything I can do?
    Thanks in advance.
     
  14. John Dancy

    John Dancy LostCousins Star

    Be patient. Over the years I have discovered that you will find those who ignore you completely, because family history was not why they had their DNA tested, some who become friends for life, because you have a mutual wall you are looking to break down, and some that you contact occasionally when you think you have something extra that they might be interested in.
    Were you just contacting them, or did you have information to give them that they had either got wrong in their tree, gave them information on direct ancestors they didn't know, or to ask a question about what they had in their tree? You are far more likely to get a response if you contact them with a helpful reason than just because they are a DNA match. They will have hundreds of close, and thousands of distant cousins that might interest them more than someone who just says "Hello, I think we are related".

    But your 'hit' rate will improve.
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  15. peter

    peter Administrator Staff Member

    Are you following the advice in my Masterclass? If you are then most of the time the answers will be in your cousin's Ancestry tree, so you won't be dependent on them replying.

    When I contact a DNA match, usually it's to tell them how we are related, so whilst it's nice to hear back from them, it's not going to hold me up if they don't notice my message.
     
  16. CornishLass

    CornishLass LostCousins Member

    Where can we find the Masterclass please? Whilst I have probably read it, it would be helpful to be able to refresh my memory, thanks.
     
  17. Heather

    Heather LostCousins Member

    When you are on the home page on the Lost Cousins site Lost Cousins - Putting Relatives In Touch Under the heading "My Lost Cousins" on the left hand side, click on "subscribers only" and this will take you to a list of Masterclasses.
     
  18. CornishLass

    CornishLass LostCousins Member

    I don't have that link unfortunately, probably because I'm not a subscriber.
     
  19. Tim

    Tim Moderator Staff Member

    In any of the Newsletters there's a search bar and type in Masterclass, avoid the Ads and then you will see links to the Masterclasses that have appeared in the Newsletters
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    These are just the 1st 3 shown
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