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Problem finding Austrian Records

Discussion in 'Help needed - new 'brick walls'' started by PoTTerTea, Sep 22, 2015.

  1. PoTTerTea

    PoTTerTea LostCousins Member

    I have hit a brick wall with a family member of mine Called Nicholas George Ceclich c.1836 Austria.

    I have found all the info for the Ceclich family on the Ancestry site and have found BMD - Parish Records from UK and Ireland also 1 USA census file 1820 but cant find any other records.

    The family story was that Nicholas George Ceclich sailed from Trieste in Italy to Liverpool around 1861 to 1871 so the family thought he was originally from Italy, but as the research went on we found in the census that he was from Austria.

    NG Ceclich married an Irish woman called Ellen Thompson in St Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church - Liverpool 17 Aug 1865 but recently I found another marriage certificate for the same couple in Ireland.

    Name: Nicholar Ceclich
    Registration district: Belfast
    Record type: MARRIAGES
    Registration date - quarter and year: 1864
    Estimated birth year:
    Age:
    Mother surnames:
    Film number: 101249
    Volume: 16
    Page: 361
    Digital GS number: 4179382
    Image number: 00265
    Collection: Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes 1845-1958

    I do have a copy of both Marriage cert.

    It stats that NG Ceclich father was a Antonio Ceclich and he was a shop keeper.

    The family also said he was a sailor so I am presuming this is how he got here, recently I have been told if you goto Ireland then you don't need nationalization records so it looks like he has gone to Ireland without any paper records and then got married and moved from there to Liverpool.


    1871 England Census
    about Nicholas G Celich
    Name: Nicholas G Celich
    [Nicholas G Ceclich]
    Age: 35
    Estimated birth year: abt 1836
    Relation: Head
    Spouse's name: Emena
    Gender: Male
    Where born: Austria
    Civil parish: Liverpool
    Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas
    Town: Liverpool
    County/Island: Lancashire
    Country: England
    Registration district: Liverpool
    Sub-registration district: St Thomas
    ED, institution, or vessel: 14
    Household schedule number: 134
    Household Members: Name Age
    Nicholas G Celich 35
    Emena Celich 29
    Mary E Celich 5
    Emily Celich 2
    John Celich 1 month


    As you can see some transcription records where done incorrectly e.g. Emena Ceclich should read Ellen and very much continues thought the rest of the census mistakes 1881 Ceelich and not Ceclich 1891 Crelick

    1881 England Census
    about Nicholas Ceelich
    Name: Nicholas Ceelich
    [Nicholas Ceclich]
    Age: 45
    Estimated birth year: abt 1836
    Relation: Head
    Spouse's name: Ellen
    Gender: Male
    Where born: Ireland

    Civil parish: Toxteth Park
    County/Island: Lancashire
    Country: England

    Street Address: 60 Stanhope St
    Condition as to marriage: Married
    Education:

    Employment status: View image
    Occupation: Dock Gateman

    Registration district: Toxteth Park
    Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
    ED, institution, or vessel: 17
    Neighbors: View others on page
    Household Members: Name Age
    Nicholas Ceelich 45
    Ellen Ceelich 39
    Mary Ellen Ceelich 15
    Emily Ceelich 12
    Elizabeth T. Ceelich 7
    Zanetta C. Ceelich 4
    Nicholas G. Ceelich 2
    Mary Mc Fie 50

    we did find this unusual name that NG Ceclich called one of his sons Zanetta Constantine Ceclich, we found the name Zanetta has 2 spelling Zanetta and Zanetto one is for a male and one for a female they only gave there son the female ver but I dont suppose many people in Liverpool knew that at the time anyway.

    We do think that this name migh have been passed down from a past relative we do also think the name Ceclich has been Anglicanised so this is probably not the correct spelling of the surname.


    1891 England Census
    about Nicholas Crelick
    Name: Nicholas Crelick
    [Nicholas Ceclich]
    Age: 55
    Estimated birth year: abt 1836
    Relation: Head
    Spouse's name: Ellen
    Gender: Male
    Where born: Austria

    Civil parish: Toxteth Park
    Ecclesiastical parish: St Gabriel
    County/Island: Lancashire
    Country: England

    Street Address:

    Occupation:

    Condition as to marriage:

    Education:

    Employment status: View image

    Registration district: Toxteth Park
    Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
    ED, institution, or vessel: 37
    Neighbors: View others on page
    Household Members: Name Age
    Nicholas Crelick 55
    Ellen Crelick 49
    Elizabeth Crelick 17
    Janette C Crelick 14
    Nicholas George Crelick 12

    On 08 Jan 1896 NG Ceclich died and his wife Ellen Ceclich nee Thompson died 22 Aug 1894 and so the family went on to live and there are still members of the Ceclich family living in the UK to this day.

    But my problem is how can I find N.G. Ceclich records in Austria and also his family Antonio Ceclich.

    Any help would be of great use.

    Kind Regards,
    Tom.
     

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